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Fascists get pwned!

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Yesterday an angry group of Unite Against Fascism supporters threw some eggs at the British National Party leader Nick Griffin. The UAF people got lots of stick for this, even some people calling them ‘undemocratic’. They tried to repress the right of free speech of an elected representative of a group of society. Yes, in theory that’s a bad thing to do. Except they’re missing a very fundamental point here: Nick Griffin is a Fascist. Fascists are bad.

There are two things wrong with the argument against the UAF protesters. Firstly, I am not elected, nobody has voted for me, that does not make my voice any less relevant than someone who has been voted for. Just because you’re the leader of something doesn’t mean that your opinion is more valid than anyone else’s – it just means that you represent the opinions of the people who voted for you. If we start thinking of MP’s opinions as more/less important depending on how many people voted for them that would be wrong.
Secondly, it’s okay to deny free speech to people like Nick Griffin. This is the start of a slippery slope which ultimately ends in the confiscation of civil liberties. I remember Mariah once presenting the idea that democracy wasn’t effective because some people just need to be gagged and told to shut up. It’s completely okay to throw eggs at them if they’re being racist.
And anyway, throwing eggs at him wasn’t nearly as bad as arresting him for incitement of racial hatred. He got on the news. I bet he’s actually quite pleased with himself.
I know for a fact that one or two members of the Socialist Worker’s Party must have been there because they sent out a mail beforehand telling everyone about it. They’ve got a meeting tonight and I’ll ask them about it.

I won’t post a picture of Nick Griffin’s ugly face because that would give him the attention he doesn’t deserve, instead here’s the worst of the internet:
fascism in action
First exhibited on this post.

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Written by Pierre

June 10, 2009 at 08:32

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  1. you know ‘mighterick’ won’t actually read that right, cos that was a youtube comment and this is not youtube?

    Anonymous

    June 14, 2009 at 13:56

  2. here here and kudos and stuff clagnutty, eric ur a facist and you deserve to be hung drawn and quatered labour and the torys have done a good job of not becoming third world or corrupt and whats bad with islam, its got many less contradictions than christanity also if u have ever read the koran you would know that every single stereotype u hold is wrong…

    mitghy eric is a idiot racisr

    June 11, 2009 at 15:48

  3. no matter how much you hate the bnp if you start undermining their right to free speech you are no better than them. Many people would deny your right to free speech because they consider your views to be extreme, and because political extremity is not measureable in any way your argument that because they are fascists they don’t deserve free speech falls apart their – as your idea of what extremity or evil is is no more valid than theirs because both are purely arbitarily measured concepts. Who does ‘decide’ who gets free speech, and if anyone does decide this, there is a good chance they would wish to silence you. The quote often wrongly attributed to your fellow frenchman and intellectual, Voltaire :” I despise what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”. Fascists like the bnp need the right to free speech as everyone else does, but also need to accept the responsibilities for voicing their bigoted opinions – that being that if they preach hate, people will hate them. In this way i am in two minds as to whether the egg thing was good; it was great to see that fascist scumbag pelted, but I worry that it plays into his hands and could strengthen his support. One point i think of is that that protest isn’t really going to change anyone’s mind for the better, because supporters of Griffin will be outraged and indignant, while people like us will be pleased, and it won’t really cause anyone to dislike him. Then again, it is great to see Griffen get ‘pwned’, and i think he definitely deserved it!

    Anonymous

    June 10, 2009 at 17:47


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